forum: Quantitative Data Capture and Statistical using Access and SPSS
I'd be grateful for members' thoughts on the following reserach methodology problem:
Research overview
1. I am developing a new way to analyse historical technical drawings, so that they can be more appropriately made accessible, by archivists, for research use.
2. To do this, I intend to statistically sample large numbers of drawings from different collections – up to several thousand at least, in samples of c400.
3. Simplistically, the method will be to intellectually deconstruct individual drawings down into their single information elements – title, reference number, drafter, medium of the information carrier, etc etc.
4. For any one set of information element, I propose to record - does this element occur, yes or no. This will allow me to simply derive a percentage of yeses and nos for all drawings, at various levels of aggregation. I shall probably need to do more detailed statistical analyses as well.
5. Those elements that most commonly occur over all drawing types – more than 90% of the time, say, will be investigated in more detail, as they are the ones that archivists and researchers will most commonly see.
6. I am at the stage of having the first sample, and developing the tools to undertake the analysis.
ICT Methods Issues
I have three ICT Methods issues (I am quite IT literate):
1. Advice about the general appropriateness of my proposed IT approach, which is:
I need to statistically analyse the sample data, to extrapolate to larger populations. Potentially, shall also need to do more in-depth statistical analyses, depending upon what comes out of the research. For this, I am advised that I need to use SPSS – no problem there, I have started to learn it.
To capture the data, I am advised that I need something like would like to use MS Access data entry tables, which I shall have to construct from scratch. I shall determine their fields from the information elements that I find in the pilot – OK, I have used Access to a limited degree, and I can learn how to contruct data entry tables.
2. Assuming that that approach is satisfactory, what I am not sure about, before I start, is the interface between Access and SPSS, and how that will affect how I construct the data entry tables.
For example, for any one information attribute, there may be a number of possibilities. For information carrier, the options will be, paper, tracing paper, drafting film, polyester film, oil-impregnated paper etc etc. A drop-down list in the data entry table is obviously indicated, but how will that import as a yes – no data element in SPSS? Shall I have to enter yes – no in Access to every possibility, or could an Access import routine “automatically” make one option “yes” in SPSS, and all the others “no” ?
3. There will no doubt be other questions that I have not yet considered, and that is the nub of the issue – I am getting rather over-faced with the amount of information that is available, on the one hand, while not finding whether this sort of approach has been used before, so that I can apply it, and get on with the innovative part of developing the new analysis technique.
I understand that that is partially what research is about, but at the same time, as a mature career-break student from industry, I also appreciate that it’s better to apply available tools and solutions where possible!






fairly easy to change the database system
I am developing a new way to analyse historical technical drawings, so that they can be more appropriately made accessible, by archivists, for research use.
That sounds very interesting. Have you had a look at IconClass? This is a specialized library classification designed for art and iconography and might be a good inspiration for what you are trying to achieve. Art Historians use it a lot:
http://www.iconclass.nl/
For this, I am advised that I need to use SPSS – no problem there, I have started to learn it.
SPSS is a good choice. People might argue about alternatives, but it is powerful and many researchers use it, so you should get a lot of feedback from the SPSS community, especially regarding the import of Acess data.
You could even store your data in an SQL database (such as MySQL) and only use Access as a frontend. It is also possible to dump Access tables into SQL structure or CSV.
My advice would be to
- focus on what sort of elements you want to categorize
- make a table, for instance in Access, and play around with your sources to make sure that your data model works
- have a look at the format SPSS uses and see what it can import
- then make sure that your database can export into one of the formats - as long as you are only creating simple tables it is fairly easy to change the database system; but really anything SQL based should do the job
re: fairly easy to change the database system
That sounds very interesting. Have you had a look at IconClass? This is a specialized library classification designed for art and iconography and might be a good inspiration for what you are trying to achieve. Art Historians use it a lot:
http://www.iconclass.nl/
Thank you, I'll check that out.
SPSS is a good choice. People might argue about alternatives, but it is powerful and many researchers use it, so you should get a lot of feedback from the SPSS community, especially regarding the import of Acess data. You could even store your data in an SQL database (such as MySQL) and only use Access as a frontend. It is also possible to dump Access tables into SQL structure or CSV.
So the mechanism would be?:
Data entry into an Access Form
Export from Access to SQL
Export from SQL to SPSS
I'd like to keep it as simple as possible - these are only tools and I don't know SQL.
My advice would be to
- focus on what sort of elements you want to categorize
- make a table, for instance in Access, and play around with your sources to make sure that your data model works
- have a look at the format SPSS uses and see what it can import
- then make sure that your database can export into one of the formats - as long as you are only creating simple tables it is fairly easy to change the database system; but really anything SQL based should do the job
Thank you.
re: fairly easy to change the database system
So the mechanism would be?:
Data entry into an Access Form
Export from Access to SQL
Export from SQL to SPSS
I'd like to keep it as simple as possible - these are only tools and I don't know SQL.
Not necessarily. I just wanted to point out that it is easy to migrate Access tables to SQL. If you want to keep the data in a proper SQL database then I would forget about Access and use MySQL or SQLlite or something similar and have a frontend like MySQLAdmin. If, on the other hand, you want to use Access then just stick to it and import the data into SPSS from Access.
You could do that via ODBC:
http://www.childrens-mercy.org/stats/data/access.asp
Or by saving your Access tables as Excel sheets or ASCI files:
http://www.utexas.edu/its/rc/tutorials/stat/spss/spss1/
I am sure there are even more options. Just have a look at the SPSS website or use google, altavista or similar search engine.
Good luck, Markus
re: fairly easy to change the database system
Many thanks Marcus, that's very helpful - I'll have a look at the links.